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  Despite the bullshit were still being sold by the Westen Press-titutes in regards to MH17......the New World Order is in full panic mode....after making a [more]

Was #MH17 The Same Plane as #MH370? NWO/ILLUMINATI FALSE FLAG EXPOSED? ( Beforeitnews.com)

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Snowden Documents Proving "US-Alien-Hitler- What Governments really in charge ? (Whatdoesitmean.com)

Snowden Documents Proving “US-Alien-Hitler” Link Stuns Russia Is the American government being run by a unelected secret regime governing in the dark? A stunning Federal Security Services (FSB) [more]

Western Press....Reckless? .... Can We Have a Real Investigation?..# MH17 #MH370

  Armchair quarterbacks watching the aftermath of the Malaysian #17 air and human tragedy must wonder what's up? With-in an hour of the tragedy...President Obama and [more]

What happened to the Malaysian Airliner? Western Press-titutes all have same talking points (Paul Craig Roberts)

Paul Craig Roberts , What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner? July 19th,2014 Washington’s propaganda machine is in such high gear that we are in danger of losing the facts that [more]

It was Putin's Missile? ( Pepe Escobar/Asia Times)

It was Putin's missile? By Pepe Escobar (about the author)July 19, 2014 at 12:28:29 Cross-posted from RT (image by Reuters / Maxim Zmeyev) Here's the spin war verdict: the current Malaysian Airlines tragedy [more]

Putin - Indicted by Global Consent...Push His Back to the Wall at Your Own Peril- (Mark Almond - Daily Mail)

By Mark Almond  With worldwide anger at the cruel sacrifice of the 298 people killed in the skies over Ukraine on Thursday boiling up, Western leaders [more]

# MH17 -Downed Malaysian Plane Raises Risk of War Between Russia and The West..( Stephen Cohen )

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BRICS Bank hopes to break the binds of Western Economic Domination...(Rothschild/Illuminati Reeling)

Jul 15: BRICS bank hopes to break the binds of Western economic dominance http://www.newsweek.com/brics-conference-plots-challenge-western-economic-domination-259093 … @Newsweek #BRICSbank Leaders of the BRICS nations, from left, Russia’s President Vladimir [more]



Despite the bullshit were still being sold by the Westen Press-titutes in regards to MH17……the New World Order is in full panic mode….after making a series of  fatal misjudgements. Soon it will be in full retreat…the world will be changed forever.

Many criminals should and  will go to jail. Industrialists, Bankers, Presidents and Prime ministers…the whole rotten bunch. While sadness permeates the world…it is said that it’s darkest before the dawn.

From JFK to Vietnam …Oklahoma City to 9/11…and MH370 TO mH17….the world has seen the treachery and human misdeeds. America’s shadow government has been in charge since Eishenhower warned us about the military industrial complex.

The real wild card in all this….and hold the laughs…is just how involved EXTRA-DIMENSIONAL ELEMENTS are in our governement and the world. The shadow government is comprised of many parts….with the real  leadership likely to be the unexpected.

We must out the truth..We must out the underground military bases. We must find out why …Washington D.C…is slated to move to Denver,Colorado.

Underneath the Denver airport, is a military industrial complex..that  IS SIMPLY…OUT OF THIS WORLD!!

Perhaps we can get a variety of independent leadership involved, as disparate as Rand Paul to the right and Elizabeth Warren to the left. Whatever you think of either, they are independents minds… free of the Illuminati.

The United Nations must  do…with all do  haste..level with the world and explain to us how many other races are involved with our world. The cat is almost out of the bag….social media must demand a full explanation of the Alien or better stated..”extra dimensional forces” involved in our world. The Rothschild/Murdoch Illuminati…and Occultism must be fully explained…and SKULL AND BONES must be buried into the past… dismantled forever.



The world is all in….Level with us…and let’s avert WW3...and begin an era of peace throughout nations, and the universe. Now or never… betting NOW is the time! God help us!


When analyzing who was responsible for the takedown of Malaysian flight #17…the answer seems  increasingly clear. Western interests have the motivation to paint Putin as “Satan”. Putin has no reason to rally world opinion against him….why would he act against his own best interest?   Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?

Is the US/UK/Rothschild/Soros Western interests prodding the tepid  European’s for  support to galvanize Russia’s  takedown…and halt the Russian/China assault on the US dollar?

Within hours of the planes demise, Obama and the mainstream media had Putin pinned as  “guilty”. A decade earlier, The West demonized Saddam Hussien…selling us on his “evilness”..much of which were proven false….yet we waged war on Iraq after “selling” the United Nations based on a plethora of  untruths and exaggerations.

Putin’s assault on the dollar…backed by China …called BRICS  is a brand  new multilateral development bank…operated by  ( Brazil,RUSSIA,India,CHINA and South Africa)..is a fullscale assault on the dollar…and Western Economies. This NEW alternative to the exisiting WORLD BANK and INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND (IMF) is a direct “act of economic war” . Headquartered in China, the new bank is a precursor to the petro dollars fall from grace…and economic despair for all  Western citizens.

One can make the arguement that the West is doing what it has to do to insure our economic well being. If  WW3 has begun…the battle lines are certainly being drawn. Whatever you think about our Western International Bankers…they are plenty smart and ruthless. Americans are certainly glad German is not our primary language….and we all say “NYET” to making Russia or Chinese our  new language of choice.

The missile that apparently took down MH17…could have been fired by Russia, Ukraine, or the CIA/MI6…or dozens of other nations ….these weapons have been around for decades.

The Western Media’s joined  at the hip “cheerleading”  of Obama’s alarmingly quick “guilty as charged” accusations is telltale. The wisdom of the action can and will be  debated…but it’s obvious that killing innocents aboard a commercial airliner was not in Putin’s best interest in the public relations battle.

A true understanding on what is happening in the world can lead to compromise and sanity. A continued blurring of what is really happening can only fuel the fire of unprecedented danger. The world needs to face the facts…and work out a solution. Death,destruction and despair  is not in the best interests of the world.

A  free press can shine a light on the truth..and end the darkness that’s threatning all that is.Time to get all the chips on the table and solve problems without destroying the world as we know it…  

Into the Abyss- Secret Underground and Underwater Bases- (Intellihub.com) #MH370

A growing body of evidence indicates that such bases have been built by the Americans, and perhaps by others as well. Bodies of water such as the Gulf of Mexico, the Caribbean Sea, the North Sea, the Bay of Biscay, the Persian Gulf, the Mediterranean Sea, the South China Sea and East China Sea, the coastal waters of the continental shelves worldwide, as well as all other major seas and oceans are all candidate sites for deep, permanently manned bases. In fact the technology exists to conduct major industrial and military operations at extreme depths of 20,000 feet in mid-ocean. The major military agencies of the world and civil, petroleum, mining and marine engineering corporations have had the capability to construct these bases for decades. Reported or planned uses for these undersea facilities are as clandestine submarine bases, sonar bases, industrial mineral extraction operations (mining), alien bases, nuclear missile bases and scientific research installations. Note that all of these bases are presently clandestine and that there are likely to be other uses, perhaps even more exotic than those listed.

Marine and civil engineering technology also permit the construction of massive bases in the world’s coastal regions that incorporate elements of both undersea and underground bases. The massive base that the Chinese military has reportedly constructed on Hainan Island is a good example. This huge, underground base can accommodate as many as 20 large, nuclear missile firing submarines underground beneath the island. The submarines reportedly do not surface to enter their base. They come and go from the base through multiple underwater tunnels that open directly to the deep sea and lead straight from the secret, underground submarine base.

In the late Soviet period the Russians were also making a similar facility for their enormous Typhoon class, nuclear missile firing submarines. The Russian base is reported to be on the Kola Peninsula about 150 miles from Murmansk.

I have been told that the USSA Navy also has built similar underground and undersea submarine bases. The Israeli Navy is reported to have such a base on the Mediterranean coast. Military marine engineering has science-fiction-like capabilities to make huge, deep, undersea and underground tunnels for submarines. Technology in the Black Budget world has far outstripped the reality that we know in our everyday lives.

There are many secret underground bases all over the world. The Americans have numerous highly secret underground bases, including at their mysterious UFO research base in Nevada called Area 51. Many other nations also have secret underground bases. The Swiss Alps, for example, are said to be tunneled like Swiss cheese! The massive underground base beneath Yamantau Mountain in the southern Ural region of Russia is almost as legendary as Area 51 in the USA. The huge, Pine Gap underground facility in the middle of the Australian Outback is equally mysterious. Our planet is home to myriad facilities such as these. Many thousands, maybe even millions of people in total, are involved in building, maintaining and operating these highly secretive underground and undersea facilities – and yet the general public is kept completely in the dark as to what happens in them, or even where most of them are located.

Most of the world’s cities sit atop a literal warren or maze of underground tunnels and passages that can extend down hundreds of feet or more. The ancient catacombs that lie under Rome and Paris are well known. The gritty, dirty subways of New York City, the magnificent metro system of Moscow, and the jam packed rush hour subways of Tokyo, are equally world renowned.

The ultra-secret tunnels that lie under some of the world’s most famous cities are less well known. For instance, most tourists who visit Washington, DC never suspect that a veritable labyrinth lies beneath their feet. They visit the White House without thinking of the secret, deep underground tunnels that radiate out from it to other locations in the city. They never suspect the elaborate, subterranean installation buried deep beneath the White House that extends down underground, level after level after level. They never have heard of the Top Secret plans in the 1960s to make a secret underground base 3,500 feet below ground, with high speed elevators connecting to the White House, the State Department and the Pentagon, and a high speed, deep underground shuttle connector between the base and the elevators. And that is just a fraction of the subterranean secrets that Washington, DC conceals.

Other major cities such as London, Moscow, Beijing, and Tokyo have their own secret tunnel systems. The so-called ruling elite have been burrowing underground for untold centuries – we are just late in awakening to their secret, subterranean lairs.

Even stranger and more secret are the many reported bases of extraterrestrials that lie beneath the surface of the land and sea. I first heard these rumors in the late 1980s and they so fired my curiosity that they played an important role in the research and writing of my first book on the topic: Underground Bases and Tunnels: What Is The Government Trying To Hide?  I didn’t uncover any open-literature evidence of aliens in underground bases while researching that book, but I found convincing evidence of major underground bases, and USSA government planning and research  for a major tunnel network.

Growing numbers of people have reported being taken underground or undersea and seeing clandestine facilities. I have heard some of these stories myself. I take them seriously. In some cases these so-called “abductees” also report seeing aliens working with terrestrial humans, including American military forces. Other human beings are sometimes seen who appear to be extraterrestrials. The implication is that there are other planets in the Milky Way Galaxy with human populations that we have not been told about. Highly strange activities have been reported in some of the underground bases involving genetic engineering, human cloning, mind control, and other technologies which we lack the appropriate language to even describe.

One engineer with whom I spoke spent his entire career maintaining large, extremely high-tech, industrial production facilities in secret, deep underground bases in the continental USSA. Part of what he described to me can only be interpreted as having to do with cyborg technology — the marriage of living protoplasm and electronic technology. He frankly told me that though he remembered the majority of his career underground, that there were parts of it that remained blank in his mind, chunks of missing time that he could not consciously account for.

Others have alleged the existence of supersonic, underground magnetic levitation (maglev) trains that hurtle through a sprawling, continent-wide, deeply buried tunnel system. Can there be such a clandestine, subterranean train system built by the Shadow Government in great secrecy? My research answers a resounding, yes, it is very possible. In fact, the open record shows that just such a system was under active research and development all the way back in the 1930s, in the Third Reich of Nazi Germany. While it is not known if the Nazis ever built such a secret, maglev, tube shuttle, train network, the stories persist that such a system exists today, that it is very fast, very deep and very secret, for use only by the Shadow Government’s clandestine, compartmentalized projects. In my books, Underwater and Underground Bases, and  Hidden in Plain Sight: Beyond the X-Files, I provide documentation from the open technical literature that demonstrates a decades-long, multi-agency research effort into high speed maglev trains.

I have mentioned many times in my public lectures and articles the literal TRILLIONS of dollars that have gone conspicuously missing from the Pentagon’s budget alone, over just the past 20 years or so. I have no doubt that a big chunk of that money has been poured into extremely high-tech, secret, underground and undersea bases and tunnels. I make the case for this in my books, which are linked to above, in the text of this article and also advertised in the right-hand sidebar of my blog.

You may be sure of this much: we are living in a world of very great illusion, delusion and profound deceit. To use a metaphor from the blockbuster movie, The Matrix, this little article is your “red pill.” You have the choice of rejecting the information that it contains, or, alternatively, of reading it and opening your eyes to the sober reality of the world as it is.

I agree with those who maintain that a highly clandestine, extremely compartmentalized, highly technologically advanced civilization has been developed parallel to the dumbed down, crime ridden, war wracked, poverty-stricken, global society that the vast majority of us are born into and spend our lives in. Both are terrestrial, human societies. Both occupy the same planet. But they remain largely separate, one from the other, by conscious design.

It seems incredible, but a growing body of research, mine included, points to that conclusion. The following 1950s-era quote, attributed to J. Edgar Hoover, applies very well to our situation: “… (T)he individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst.”

The context of  Hoover’s remarks had to do with the threat of Communism, but the comment clearly is fungible, in that it could just as well describe the predicament we face today.

We are faced with a situation where many trillions of dollars are being sucked out of the global economy, impoverishing billions of people, and yet we have no realistic idea of where the money is going, or what it is being used for. It’s as if there is a parallel universe, established cheek by jowl with the realm we inhabit; we can see its effects on our daily lives, we can sense its deeply disruptive presence, and yet we cannot directly observe it; it remains frustratingly just out of our reach, just beyond or ken.

I surmise that that is because a great deal of it is underground and undersea. And also off planet, in orbit and perhaps elsewhere in this solar system and beyond. But that is a topic for another installment of this blog.

Of course, there are plenty of people who will remonstrate: “Yeah. Right. Look here, Richard, if something like that were going on, I would certainly know about it and I haven’t ever seen any mention of it on FOX TV, or CNN, or MSNBC or CBS. National Public Radio has never alluded to anything like that. Neither have the BBC …”

Like I said, we live in a dream world full of deceit, propaganda, international cover-ups, massive psy-op campaigns, compartmentalized, clandestine programs and projects, and multi-trillion dollar, global, Black Budget money laundering operations.

Understanding those basic facts is key to grokking what is happening on this planet. Either you get it or you don’t, as you wish.

This article was originally posted on | Event Horizon Chronicle

Area 51 & Diego Garcia…Military Industrial Complex running the world?…


Area 51 is a top secret military base that’s been run without congressional oversight for some 65+ years now. Now the clandestine military base Diego Garcia, located in the Indian Ocean… has received some attention, mostly because of it’s likely role in the hijacking of Malaysian air flight MH370. Both these black sites( classified…no public information allowed)…have been heavily funded by “off the books” funny money…printed willy/nilly  by the government. Few realize that even congress has no idea how much money has been used to fund these two ultra secret facilities. …yep,that’s our elected officials at work. They are held hostage to the Military Industrial complex that now runs the world.

While  average  American’s  continue to  drown in debt … millions of our brothers and sisters  floundering  in a desperate attempt to hold on to a home and a job…..The federal Reserve continues to  stage a back door robbery of it’s own citizenry. Hard working Americans  of all stripes and sizes have been denied a legitimate interest rate on their savings for nearly a decade now.

This is a tax fellow Americans….with interest rates holding CD’s and savings accounts at near zero payout rates…the military industrial complex is in cohoots with the international bankers…stealing  our money and borrowing for free. With both political parties totally beholden to corporate cash, nobody is tending to the best interests of the American people…or the planet!. While we know the mainstream media isn’t going to ask any meaningful questions…let’s throw out a few quieries and see if any READERS  have an answer or educated guesses.

Diego Garcia is so secret now, that military officers with high level security clearance…are being denied movement on the atoll in the Indian Ocean. No one can presently leave the island…no military wives are allowed in. What can they be hiding from the world?  Many indications exist which show Diego Garcia a likely landing spot for Malaysian flight MH370. Are the passengers on the plane being held hostage…and why? Are some being killed, waterboarded…or being held in solitary confinement…and why?

Area 51 is just as mysterious and rumors of what’s going on their  are hard to fathom. Is it possible that the nations of the world are not really the ones in control of these sites? What can be so secret…that congress doesn’t even know?With Bill Clinton recently hinting about the likelyhood of aliens, the pope agreeing to say prayers for extra-dimensionals, The United Nations appointing an Ambassador to Extra-terrestrials in 2013 ( an astrophysicist from Malaysia) ..and President Obama talking about our “Reptilian brains”…one has to wonder about the “prepping” of the American people.

The world wants to know. What really happened to flight MH370….was it shot down bythe USA/UK military to showcase new weapon technology?..or has it been diverted to Diego Garcia for reasons beyond our worldview? What goes on in area 51 in the western United States? Are their beings living their  called “Greys” Reptillians” Nordics” Paledians…are they  calling the shots in our New World Order Obama/Rothchild/Energy/Military coalition government?

How long does the world economy continue to shatter before we demand answers? Apparently, no one in the mainstream media has the guts to confront the government….The window of opportunity for transperancy…is going  black. Can we only hope Edward Snowden continues to shine a light…is that all we have?…one guy with guts…the rest of us sitting on our hands….helpless and hopeless….chanting….ALMS FOR THE POOR?


***Must View…Alien Invasion has already occurred- (Lalene Eisenhower)-What governments are hiding from the world..

Lalene Eisenhower (Great Granddaughter Of Past US President): ET invasion has already occurred and governments do not want us to know aura @beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/04/laura-magdalene-eisenhower-great-granddaughter-of-past-us-president-et-invasion-has-already-occurred-and-governments-do-not-want-us-to-know-2937820.htm

Government exists to control power..not to confirm what the can’t control.

The post 9/11 era is in full swing and to say that we’re spinning out of control is not hyperbole. Washington D.C is in pure meltdown…and the American people stand by seemingly helpless to help themselves.The middle class lacks the clout to make any meaningful change happen; the elite 1% or 2% of the country continue to feather their own nest. America is imploding from the inside. Do “Un-manifested” cosmic powerhouses loom larger still -… to take advantage of our dangerous self-destructive tendencies..or perhaps to save us and the universe from ourselves? Electronic warfare and Electronic  magnetic Pulse (EMP) technologies  are little discussed…. but most important to our universal health and continued survival as a healthy and safe planet.

“The Dark Knight Rises” is to my mind one of the most important contributions Hollywood has created in this post 9/11 world. Sometimes it’s hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys, who have honorable intentions, and what team they play on. A failing political system is laying the groundwork for the middle class to look for alternate solutions, but which could prove to be a fatal “human” error.

Is the Robin Hood mentality portrayed in “Gotham” foretelling a game plan that may be in the playbook for those that would take advantage of an increasingly desperate population? Is the disappearance of Malaysian flight #370 more than a military conflict between China/Russia and the USA?…perhaps extra dimensional forces are also involved in this showdown?

Earthquakes have rocked the world in alarming frequency…have you noticed how quiet the governement had been about California,Oklahoma,Texas,Chile..and many others? What really is going on? Does the Iluminati’s penchant for “fracking” contribute to Earth’s instabilty?  Are  the world governments being over-matched by some greater cosmic presence here-to-fore unconfirmed and un-manifested…atleast in the public realm?

Perhaps the concept of global warming is a misnomer, and what we’re really witnessing is more of a cosmic warning. The scientific community has been put to sleep, integrity nullified by government grants that control much of their funding. Few leaders within the scientific community dare speak of the increasingly obvious signals. They will not admit that events are happening that defy human understanding. Unwilling to destroy their careers or face ridicule and defunding – many “scientists” remain silent.

Proper discussion needs to take place and long-classified information needs to be disseminated to the public. The American people remain “barefoot and pregnant” at the bequest of the “Earth bound Powers-to-be.” Just like the scientists that protect their own interests, Washington D.C is the poster child for those that would protect “their own” at the expense of the greater good.

Those that are in leadership positions need to take some calculated risks and step up to the plate. We are a maturing planet, that is one in which citizens can handle the information that is needed; so we can ascertain what is really happening here on our mother ship. It’s time for government to give us the real story, not the one that is currently manufactured for the benefit of the 1%!

Level with us and tell us, that there are things in this world that cannot be controlled by legislatures and soldiers in arms. Otherwise, risk the chaos that will allow the exploitation of the masses via powerful forces of the “Un-manifested.”

John F Kennedy…Malaysian Air #370….Secret Society Speech….#MH370

President John F Kennedy Secret Society

Government …UFO’S… A common sense viewpoint ( Guest blog- ? )

That UFOs exist is now beyond doubt. The weight of evidence is overwhelming.
What, who or what they are is a far more difficult issue to deal with.

There are any number of theories on this subject. Some are clearly more crackpot
than others but there are those that may have some element of truth based on

For example how does a saucer shaped craft fly at all, particularly in Earth’s
atmospheric conditions? There have been several experiments demonstrating the
principles of how this might be achieved. Our best guess is that these craft use
the electro-magnetic fields of the planet to create a state of zero gravity.

How do these craft suddenly appear and disappear? One theory is that this has
something to do with an ability to raise and lower the frequencies of  energy in
these craft. At certain frequencies we are able to see them but at higher levels
they become invsible to us but may in fact still be there.

Other theories maintain that these craft are interdimensional rather than
extra-terrestrial. This may mean that there are other realities that exist
possibly in the same space or a different space that we are not attuned to.

Then there are the worm holes, vortexes etc., that allow these craft to travel
huge distances in the blink of an eye. The truth is thatt whilst this all sounds
feasible, we cannot sustantiate any of it becase it is outside the laws of
physics as we understand them.

Howevever, I digress. The question I want to address is the intent of these
beings. So far as we are able to judge they have shown no intent as yet to
conquer the planet. There is credible evidence that they have been visiting for
thousands of years and yet we are still here. If they want the Earth what is
stopping them. Their technology is so advanced compared to ours we would be
powerless to stop them. This is a strong indicator that their intent is not
antagonistic. They may have particular empathy either. We may just be a living
laboratory which they  observe with scientific detachment.

The point is that until they prove otherwise we cannot assume they are either
antagonistic or philanthropic. We just dont know yet.

Lastly, may I suggest that unless we as a species become more enlightened, less
hostile to each other and so on, we will never survive long enough to attain
their advanced technological state. This suggests that the perception
of the survival of the fittest does not depend on who is the strongest but who
is the smartest. War is stupid. Domination is a the path of self destruction
because it creates conflict and in conflict one cannot guarantee survival.
Survival depends on co- operation, understanding, tolerance, compassion and yes

I believe that tells us something about the who. The most advanced life forms
will be those that are connected and work together, not those who are
disconnected and destroy each other. Any destruction unbalances the whole.

Was #MH17 The Same Plane as #MH370? NWO/ILLUMINATI FALSE FLAG EXPOSED? ( Beforeitnews.com)

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Wow!  We have huge information just released on VeteransToday.com and it’s the smoking gunin the investigation of of the shoot down of the MH-17 jet!  Look carefully at the position of the flag on the piece of wreckage in the Ukraine (top of article).   Do you see how the trailing edge of the flag (the side with the red and white stripes) is directly over a window hole that is covered with ametal plate.  There is no window there.   Now carefully look at the second photos of both MH-17 and MH-370 shown below.  In the photos of MH-17 you see clearly see that the trailing edge of the flag is lined up with a window!   But in the photos of MH-370 you see that the trailing edge of the flag is directly over a the metal plate covering up the window!   Photographs don’t lie!  So this plane is MH-370!  

I have other evidence for this also.  Stew Webb (www.stewwebb.com) is a federal whistleblower who has hundreds of high level contacts within US Intelligence.  One of his contacts told him about 3 months ago that MH-370 landed in Diego Garcia but was later flown to Ukraine to be used in a false flag attack to get a war started!  Stew went over this information on VT Radio on his Monday July 21st show on Revolution Radio (www.freedomslips.com)   Stew’s information along with the solid photographic evidence makes this a VERY important piece of information and it would make sense that there were reports of frozen bodies and bodies that were already decomposed found because they would need to stuff this plane with people to make it seem convincing.   Obviously the Malaysian government would have to be involved with this stunt.  You know we’ll never be told the REAL results of DNA testing and if they matched the DNA to the supposed passengers of MH-17.  This would also tie in with reports coming out of VeteransToday that pictures circulated by mainstream news of MH-17 right before take off from a “passenger” have been proven to be false – it had the wrong numbers painted on the aircraft so could not have been MH-17!  You can read about this information here.


Malaysia Airliner Missile Strike: Was it MH-17 or MH-370?

by Harold Saive

Of interest is a photo of the starboard section of a crashed Boeing-777-200 with alleged tail number 9M-MRDassigned to fly route MH-17.

Although another photograph shows “MRD” as prominent crash debris, this could be a likely “re-painted” attempt to show the world there should be no confusion between the missing airliner (MH-370) and the presumably “doomed” flight, MH-17.

“Michael Holmes of CNN shared an image on Twitter via his account @holmescnn of a section of what appears to be a Malaysia Airlines jetliner on a grassy field. The Malaysian flag is clearly depicted and the red and blue livery colours used by MAS are also shown.”

The source of the images, a man identifying himself as a tourist guide / traveller / photographer / former soldier from Slovenia, @MatevzNovak, has since posted more photos – taken by a Nadezhda Chernetskaya – of what he claims to be the crash site of Flight MH17 in Grabovo, Ukraine. (TRNS)

Photo taken at the crash site is evidence that aircraft designated as Flight MH-17 was not involved in the missile shoot-down.

The window configuration in the crash site does not match the Boeing-777-200 aircraft reported to be flying as MH-17 (9M-MRD). Instead the starboard fuselage section in the photograph more closely matches Flight MH-370 – the aircraft that is now known to be hijacked without a trace – until, perhaps now.

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Note by Glenn:

Here’s the two critical photos again.  The first photo shows the trailing edge of the flag (the side with red and white stripes) lining up with a metal plate over a window on a piece of wreckage from the shot down plane in Ukraine.  Now look at the pictures below.  The position of the flag is wrong for MH-17 but a perfect match for MH-370!  On MH-370 the trailing edge of the flag is directly over the metal plate over the window!  Get the word out – this is CRITICAL information that must be shared to stop WW3!

Snowden Documents Proving “US-Alien-Hitler- What Governments really in charge ? (Whatdoesitmean.com)

Snowden Documents Proving “US-Alien-Hitler” Link Stuns Russia

Is the American government being run by a unelected secret regime governing in the dark?

A stunning Federal Security Services (FSB) report on the nearly two million highly classified top-secret documents obtained from the United States Department of Defense (DOD) run National Security Agency-Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) by the American ex-patriot Edward Snowden states that this information is providing “incontrovertible proof” that an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945.

Edward Snowden is a computer specialist, a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) employee, and former NSA/CSS contractor who disclosed these classified documents to several media outlets in late 2012 and was granted temporary asylum in Russia in 2013 after his designation by the Obama regime as the “most wanted man on earth.”

This FSB report further states that Snowden, in December, 2012, contacted the highly respected American columnist, blogger, and author Glenn Greenwald by an email headed with the subject line stating, “I and others have things you would be interested in.?.?.?.”

In Snowden’s own words, this report continues, he outlined to Greenwald the reason for his highly secretive group obtaining and releasing these documents by warning that that there “were actually two governments in the US: the one that was elected, and the other, secret regime, governing in the dark.”

As to who is running this “secret regime” Snowden and his cohorts were warning about, FSB experts in this report say, was confirmed this past weekend by former Canadian defense minister Paul Hellyer who was given access to all of Snowden’s documents by Russian intelligence services and stated they were, indeed, “accurate.”

Even though Defense Minister Hellyer’s exact statements to the FSB in regards to Snowden’s documents remain classified, shortly after his “extensive electronic interview” by the FSB he was allowed to appear on Russia Today’s program SophieCo this past fortnight [see video HERE] where he shockingly admitted that aliens have “been visiting our planet for thousands of years” and described several types of these extraterrestrials, including “Tall Whites” who are working with the US Air Force in Nevada.

Of the many explosive revelations in this FSB report, the one most concerning to Russian authorities are the Snowden’s documents “confirming” that the “Tall Whites” (further revealed by Defense Minister Hellyer as noted above) are the same extraterrestrial alien race behind the stunning rise of Nazi Germany during the 1930’s.

In just one example of the many outlined in this FSB report, it shows that with this “alien assistance,” at the end of the 1930’s, when Nazi Germany possessed just 57 submarines, over the four years of World War II it built 1,163 modern technologically advanced submarines at its dockyards and even put them into operation.

Snowden’s documents further confirm, this report says, the “Tall Whites” (Nordic) meetings in 1954 with US President Dwight D. Eisenhower where the “secret regime” currently ruling over America was established.

Most disturbingly, this FSB report warns, is that the “Tall White” agenda being implemented by the “secret regime” ruling the United States calls for the creation of a global electronic surveillance system meant to hide all true information about their presence here on earth as they enter into what one of Snowden’s documents calls the “final phase” of their end plan for total assimilation and world rule.

Unbeknownst to the FSB, this report confirms, are those still in the US government backing Snowden, but whose presence Russian intelligence experts note is “unmistakable” and shows a cataclysmic power struggle is currently underway against this “secret regime” now headed by Obama by “forces unknown.”

Most to be feared by Russian policy makers and authorities, this report concludes, is if those opposing the “Tall White” “secret regime” ruled over by Obama have themselves aligned with another alien-extraterrestrial power themselves.


Western Press….Reckless? …. Can We Have a Real Investigation?..# MH17 #MH370


Armchair quarterbacks watching the aftermath of the Malaysian #17 air and human tragedy must wonder what’s up? With-in an hour of the tragedy…President Obama and the Western press shared talking points….concluding that the Russians were responsible for the shooting down of  the Malaysian commercial airplane. It’s impossible for anyone to know what happened..with certainty..unless your the one’s behind the evil act.

The America I grew up in was one that honored the truth, and conducted itself in a responsible and thoughtful way. We looked at facts and… with careful deliberation determined the truth. Our whole system of justice demands impartiality and fairness..and we strived for justice…that was the American way.

In today’s America….we can’t even make a phone call or send an email without the scrutiny of big brother. Were photopgraphed on the average of 178 times each day. In the name of preserving our freedoms, lazy America sat back and let our ruling class pervert the meaning of what freedom is.


Two men, Jacob Rothchild and Rupert Murdoch…are life long friends and business partners. Between the two of them , they control the Western press. They also control Western governments, banking institutions..and the military industrial complex. Since Kennedy, every American president has been their puppet…and Obama is just more of the same. Presidents are just figureheads, given a 4 or 8 year job…the real power is held by the few..call them the Illuminati… that control the world.

Interesting “coincidences” …Malaysian airlines is owned by the Malaysian central bank…which is owned and funded by Rothschild. Any investigations conducted by Malaysian airlines are controlled by the Rothschild gang.

Freescale semi-conductor..the key to the truth about the previous Malaysian air disaster #mh370..is also owned by the Rothschild group..the shadowy Blackstone group and Carlyle group..master war profiteers.

What industrialist owns the biggest piece of Ukraine…whose calling all the shots?..Rothschild group. What two industrialsits just made a HUGE energy deal with Israel? Yep, Murdoch and Rothschild.

These men also own 95%+ of the mainstream media. In fact, citizens journalists are about the only thing not under their control..and they are ferverishly working on changinging” net nuetrality”…and ending and true independent journalism.

I have always been a proud American and a supporter of a free and Democratic Israel. I don’t doubt both Russian and China have nefarious intentions…but I no longer have any illusions about America either.

Times is running short. World War 3 appears to be underway. The only way to put a halt to the madness is expose the truth….wherever it falls. I never believed in Chemtrails…and the thought of our government “drugging” the people into complacency….but now it’s clearer…something has caused the land of the free and home of the brave to be compromised I never put any stock into the “end times” movement..but I’m in the process of reassesment

We need courageous and proud American, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS…ELECTED or otherwise…to stand up now and demand truth and accountability..and put an end to the reckless pursuits of the rich and all too powerful! NOW…THE WORLD IS DEPENDING ON IT.


What happened to the Malaysian Airliner? Western Press-titutes all have same talking points (Paul Craig Roberts)

Paul Craig Roberts

Washington’s propaganda machine is in such high gear that we are in danger of losing
the facts that we do have.

One fact is that the separatists do not have the expensive Buk anti-aircraft missile system or the trained personnel to operate it.

Another fact is that the separatists have no incentive to shoot down an airliner and neither does Russia. Anyone can tell the difference between low-flying attack aircraft and an airliner at 33,000 feet.

The Ukrainians do have Buk anti-aircraft missile systems, and a Buk battery was operational in the region and deployed at a site from which it could have fired a missile at the airliner.

Just as the separatists and the Russian government have no incentive to shoot down an airliner, neither does the Ukrainian government nor, one would think, even the crazed extreme Ukrainian nationalists who have formed militias to take the fight against the separatists that the Ukrainian army is not keen to undertake–unless there was a plan to frame Russia.

One Russian general familiar with the weapon system offered his opinion that it was a mistake made by the Ukrainian military untrained in the weapon’s use. The general said that although Ukraine has a few of the weapons, Ukrainians have had no training in their use in the 23 years since Ukraine separated from Russia. The general thinks it was an accident due to incompetence.

This explanation makes a certain amount of sense and far more sense than Washington’s propaganda. The problem with the general’s explanation is that it does not explain why the Buk anti-aircraft missile system was deployed near or in a separatist territory. The separatists have no aircraft. It seems odd for Ukraine to have an expensive missile system in an area in which it is of no military use and where the position could be overrun and captured by separatists.

As Washington, Kiev, and the presstitute media are committed to the propaganda that Putin did it, we are not going to get any reliable information from the US media. We will have to figure it out for ourselves.

One way to begin is to ask: Why was the missile system where it was? Why risk an expensive missile system by deploying it in a conflict environment in which it is of no use? Incompetence is one answer, and another is that the missile system did have an intended use.

What intended use? News reports and circumstantial evidence provide two answers. One is that the ultra-nationalist extremists intended to bring down Putin’s presidential airliner and confused the Malaysian airliner with the Russian airliner.

The Interfax news agency citing anonymous sources, apparently air traffic controllers, reported that the Malaysian airliner and Putin’s airliner were traveling almost the identical route within a few minutes of one another. Interfax quotes its source: “I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft at 15:44 Moscow time. The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical.”

I have not seen an official Russian denial, but according to news reports, the Russian government in response to the Interfax news report said that Putin’s presidential plane no longer flies the Ukraine route since the outbreak of hostilities.

Before we take the denial at face value, we need to be aware that the implication that Ukraine attempted to assassinate the president of Russia implies war, which Russia wants to avoid. It also implies Washington’s complicity as it is highly unlikely that Washington’s puppet in Kiev would risk such a dangerous act without Washington’s backing. The Russian government, being intelligent and rational, would obviously deny reports of an attempted assassination of the Russian president by Washington and its Kiev puppet. Otherwise, Russia has to do something about it, and that means war.

The second explanation is that the extremists who operate outside the official Ukrainian military, hatched a plot to down an airliner in order to cast the blame on Russia. If such a plot occurred, it likely originated with the CIA or some operative arm of Washington and was intended to force the EU to cease resisting Washington’s sanctions against Russia and to break off Europe’s valuable economic relationships with Russia. Washington is frustrated that its sanctions are unilateral, unsupported by its NATO puppets or any other countries in the world except possibly the lap-dog British PM.

There is considerable circumstantial evidence in support of this second explanation. There is the youtube video which purports to be a conversation between a Russian general and separatists who are discussing having mistakenly brought down a civilian airliner. According to reports, expert examination of the code in the video reveal that it was made the day before the airliner was hit.

Another problem with the video is that whereas we could say that separatists conceivably could confuse an airliner at 33,000 feet with a military attack plane, the Russian military would not. The only conclusion is that by involving the Russian military, the video doubly discredited itself.

The circumstantial evidence easiest for non-technical people to understand is the on cue news programs organized to put the blame on Russia prior to the knowledge of any facts.

In my previous article http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/17/sanctions-airliners-paul-craig-roberts/ I reported on the BBC news report which I heard and which was obviously primed to place all blame on Russia. The program ended with a BBC correspondent breathlessly reporting that he has just seen the youtube video and that the video is the smoking gun that proved Russia did it. There is no longer any doubt, he said. Somehow the information got on a video and on youtube before it reached the Ukrainian government or Washington.

The evidence that Putin did it is a video made prior to the attack on the airliner. The entire BBC report aired over National Public Radio was orchestrated for the sole purpose of establishing prior to any evidence that Russia was responsible.

Indeed the entire Western media spoke as one: Russia did it. And the presstitutes are still speaking the same way.

Possibly, this uniform opinion merely reflects the pavlovian training of the Western media to automatically line up with Washington. No media source wants to be subject to criticism for being unamerican or to find itself isolated by majority opinion, which carries the day, and earn black marks for being wrong. As a former journalist for, and contributor to, America’s most important news publications, I know how this works.

On the other hand, if we discount the pavlovian conditioning, the only conclusion is that the entire news cycle pertaining to the downing of the Malaysian airliner is orchestrated in order to lay the blame on Putin.

Romesh Ratnesar, deputy editor of Bloomberg Businessweek, provides convincing evidence for orchestration in his own remarks of July 17. http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-17/the-malaysia-airlines-shootdown-spells-disaster-for-putin?campaign_id=DN071814 Ratnesar’s opinion title is: “The Malaysia Airlines Shootdown Spells Disaster for Putin.” Ratnesar does not mean that Putin is being framed-up. He means that prior to Putin having the Malaysian airliner shot down, “to the vast majority of Americans, Russia’s meddling in Ukraine has largely seemed of peripheral importance to U.S. interests. That calculus has changed. . . . It may take months, even years, but Putin’s recklessness is bound to catch up to him. When it does, the downing of MH 17 may be seen as the beginning of his undoing.”

As a former Wall Street Journal editor, anyone who handed me a piece of shit like Ratnesar published would have been fired. Look at the insinuations when there is no evidence to support them. Look at the lie that Washington’s coup is “Russia’s meddling in Ukraine.” What we are witnessing is the total corruption of Western journalism by Washington’s imperial agenda. Journalists have to get on board with the lies or get run over.

Look around for still honest journalists. Who are they? Glenn Greenwald, who is under constant attack by his fellow journalists, all of whom are whores. Who else can you think of? Julian Assange, locked away in the Ecuadoran Embassy in London on Washington’s orders. The British puppet government won’t permit free transit to Assange to take up his asylum in Ecuador. The last country that did this was the Soviet Union, which required its Hungarian puppet to keep Cardinal Mindszenty interred in the US Embassy in Budapest for 15 years from 1956 until 1971. Mindszenty was granted political asylum by the United States, but Hungary, on Soviet orders, would not honor his asylum, just as Washington’s British puppet, on Washington’s orders, will not honor Assange’s asylum.

If we are honest and have the strength to face reality, we will realize that the Soviet Union did not collapse. It simply moved, along with Mao and Pol Pot, to Washington and London.

The flaw in Putin’s diplomacy is that Putin’s diplomacy relies on good will and on truth prevailing. However, the West has no good will, and Washington is not interested in truth prevailing but in Washington prevailing. What Putin confronts is not reasonable “partners,” but a propaganda ministry aimed at him.

I understand Putin’s strategy, which contrasts Russian reasonableness with Washington’s threats, but it is a risky bet. Europe has long been a part of Washington, and there are no Europeans in power who have the vision needed to separate Europe from Washington. Moreover, European leaders are paid large sums of money to serve Washington. One year out of office and Tony Blair was worth $50 million dollars.

After the disasters that Europeans have experienced, it is unlikely that European leaders think of anything other than a comfortable existence for themselves. That existence is best obtained by serving Washington. As the successful extortion of Greece by banks proves, European people are powerless.

Here is the official statement of the Russian Defense Ministry: http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh-17-crash-in-ukraine-official-statement-from-russian-defense-ministry/5392000

Washington’s propaganda assault against Russia is a double tragedy, because it has diverted attention from Israel’s latest atrocity against the Palestinians locked up in the Gaza Ghetto. Israel claims that its air attack and invasion of Gaza is merely Israel’s attempt to find and close the alleged tunnels through which Palestinian terrorists pour into Israel inflicting carnage. Of course there are no tunnels and no terrorist carnage in Israel.

One might think that at least one journalist somewhere in the American media would ask why bombing hospitals and civilian housing closes underground tunnels into Israel. But that is too much to ask of the whores that comprise the US media.

Expect even less from the US Congress. Both the House and Senate have passed resolutions supporting Israel’s slaughter of Palestinians. Two Republicans–the despicable Lindsey Graham and the disappointing Rand Paul–and two democrats–Bob Menendez and Ben Cardin–sponsored the Senate resolution backing Israel’s premeditated murder of Palestinian women and children. The resolution passed the “exceptional and indispensable” people’s Senate unanimously.

As a reward for its policy of genocide, the Obama regime is immediately transferring $429 million of US taxpayers’ money to Israel to pay for the slaughter.

Contrast the US government’s support for Israel’s war crimes with the propaganda onslaught against Russia based on lies. We are living all over again “Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction,” “Assad’s use of chemical weapons,” “Iranian nukes.”

Washington has lied for so long that it can’t do anything else.

It was Putin’s Missile? ( Pepe Escobar/Asia Times)

It was Putin’s missile?

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Cross-posted from RT

Here’s the spin war verdict: the current Malaysian Airlines tragedy — the second in four months — is “terrorism” perpetrated by “pro-Russian separatists” armed by Russia and Putin is the main culprit. End of story. Anyone who believes otherwise, shut up.

Why? Because the CIA said so. Because Hillary ‘We came, we saw, he died’ Clinton said so. Because crazy Samantha ‘R2P’ Power said so — thundering at the UN, everything duly printedby the neo-con infested Washington Post.

Because Anglo-American corporate media — from CNN to Fox (who tried to buy Time Warner, which owns CNN) — said so. Because the President of the United States (POTUS) said so. And mostly because Kiev had vociferously said so in the first place.

Right off the bat they were all lined up — the invariably hysterical reams of “experts” of the “US intelligence community” literally foaming at their palatial mouths at “evil” Russia and “evil”Putin; intel “experts” who could not identify a convoy of gleaming white Toyotas crossing the Iraqi desert to take Mosul. And yet they have already sentenced; they don’t need to look any further, instantly solving the MH17 riddle.

It doesn’t matter that President Putin has stressed the MH17 tragedy must be investigated objectively. And “objectively” certainly does not mean that fictional ‘international community’notion construed by Washington — the usual congregation of pliable vassals/patsies.

And what about Carlos?A simple search reveals that MH17 was in fact diverted 200km north from the usual flight path taken by Malaysian Airlines in the previous days — and plunged right in the middle of a war zone. Why? What sort of communication had MH17 received from the Kiev air control tower?

Kiev has been mute about it. Yet the answer would be simple, had Kiev released the Air Traffic Control recording of the tower talking to flight MH17; Malaysia did it after flight MH370 disappeared forever.

It won’t happen; SBU security confiscated it. So much for getting an undoctored explanation as to why MH17 was off its path, and what the pilots saw and said before the explosion.

The Russian Defense Ministry, for its part, has confirmed that a Kiev-controlled Buk anti-aircraft missile battery was operational near the MH17′s crash. Kiev has deployed several batteries of Buk surface-to-air missile systems with at least 27 launchers; these are all perfectly capable of bringing down jets flying at 33,000 ft.

Radiation from a battery’s Kupol radar, deployed as part of a Buk-M1 battery near Styla [a village some 30km south of Donetsk] was detected by the Russian military. According to the ministry, the radar could be providing tracking information to another battery which was at a firing distance from MH17′s flight path.

The tracking radar range on the Buk system is a maximum of 50 miles (80km). MH17 was flying at 500mph. So assuming the “rebels” had an operational Buk and did it, they would have had not more than five minutes to scan all the skies above, all possible altitudes, and then lock on. By then they would have known that a cargo plane could not possibly be flying that high.

For evidence supporting the possibility of a false flag, check here.

And then there’s the curiouser and curiouser story of Carlos, the Spanish air traffic controller working at Kiev’s tower, who was following MH17 in real time. For some Carlos is legit — not a cipher; for others, he’s never even worked in Ukraine. Anyway he tweeted like mad. Hisaccount – not accidentally — has been shut down and he has disappeared. His friends are now desperately looking for him. I managed to read all his tweets in Spanish when the account was still online. And now copies and an English translation are available.

Russia’s President Vladimir Putin.
(image by (AFP Photo / Alexei Nikolsky ))

These are some of his crucial tweets:

“The B777 was escorted by 2 Ukrainian fighter jets minutes before disappearing from radar (5.48pm)”“If the Kiev authorities want to admit the truth 2 fighter jets were flying very close a few minutes before the incident but did not shoot down the airliner (5.54)”

“As soon as the Malaysia Airlines B777 disappeared the Kiev military authority informed us of the shooting down. How did they know? (6.00)”

“Everything has been recorded on radar. For those that don’t believe it, it was taken down by Kiev; we know that here (in traffic control) and the military air traffic control know it too (7.14)”

“The Ministry of the Interior did know that there were fighter aircraft in the area, but theMinistry of Defense didn’t. (7.15)”

“The military confirm that it was Ukraine, but it is not known where the order came from. (7.31)”

Carlos’s assessment (a partial compilation of his tweets is collected here: the missile was fired by the Ukraine military under orders of the Ministry of Interior — NOT the Ministry of Defense. Security matters at the Ministry of the Interior happen to be under Andrey Paruby, who was closely working alongside US neo-cons and Banderastan neo-Nazis on Maidan.

Assuming Carlos is legit, the assessment makes sense. The Ukrainian military are divided between Chocolate king [President Petro] Poroshenko — who would like a detente with Russia essentially to advance his shady business interests — and St. Yulia Tymoshenko, who’s on the record advocating genocide of ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine. US neo-cons and US“military advisers” on the ground are proverbially hedging their bets, supporting both the Poroshenko and Tymoshenko factions.

So who profits?The key question remains, of course, cui bono? Only the terminally brain dead believe shooting a passenger jet benefits the federalists in eastern Ukraine, not to mention the Kremlin.

As for Kiev, they’d have the means, the motive and the window of opportunity to pull it off — especially after Kiev’s militias have been effectively routed, and were in retreat, in the Donbass. And this after Kiev remained dead set on attacking and bombing the population of eastern Ukraine even from above. No wonder the federalists had to defend themselves.

And then there’s the suspicious timing. The MH17 tragedy happened two days after the BRICS announced an antidote to the IMF and the World Bank, bypassing the US dollar. And just as Israel “cautiously” advances its new invasion/slow-motion-ethnic-cleansing of Gaza. Malaysia, by the way, is the seat of the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission, which has found Israel guilty of crimes against humanity.

Washington, of course, does profit. What the Empire of Chaos gets in this case is a ceasefire (so the disorganized, battered Kiev militias may be resupplied); the branding of eastern Ukrainians as de facto “terrorists” (as Kiev, Dick Cheney-style, always wanted); and unlimited mud thrown over Russia, and Putin in particular, until Kingdom Come. Not bad for a few minutes’ work. As for NATO, that’s Christmas in July.

From now on, it all depends on Russian intelligence. They have been surveilling/tracking everything that happens in Ukraine 24/7. In the next 72 hours, after poring over a lot of tracking data, using telemetry, radar and satellite tracking, they will know which type of missile was launched, from where, and even produce communications from the battery that launched it. And they will have access to forensic evidence.

Unlike Washington — who already knows everything, with no evidence whatsoever (remember 9/11?) — Moscow will take its time to know the basic journalistic facts of what, where, and who, and engage on proving the truth and/or disproving Washington’s spin.

The historical record shows Washington simply won’t release data if it points to a missile coming from its Kiev vassals. The data may even point to a bomb planted on MH17, or mechanical failure — although that’s unlikely. If this was a terrible mistake by the Novorossiya rebels, Moscow will have to reluctantly admit it. If Kiev did it, the revelation will be instantaneous. Anyway we already know the hysterical Western response, no matter what — Russia is to blame.

Putin is more than correct when he stressed this tragedy would not have happened if Poroshenko had agreed to extend a ceasefire, as Merkel, Hollande and Putin tried to convince him to do in late June. At a minimum, Kiev is already guilty because they are responsible for safe passage of flights in the airspace they — theoretically — control.

But all that is already forgotten in the fog of war, tragedy and hype. As for Washington’s hysterical claims of credibility, I leave you with just one number: Iran Air 655.

Pepe Escobar is the roving correspondent for Asia Times. His regular column, “The Roving Eye,” is widely read. He is an analyst for the online news channel Real News, the roving correspondent for Asia Times/Hong Kong, an analyst for RT and (more…)

Putin – Indicted by Global Consent…Push His Back to the Wall at Your Own Peril- (Mark Almond – Daily Mail)

With worldwide anger at the cruel sacrifice of the 298 people killed in the skies over Ukraine on Thursday boiling up, Western leaders from President Obama down are pointing the finger of responsibility at Vladimir Putin. The Kremlin’s boss is accused of supplying pro-Russian rebels with the missiles and even the key personnel to destroy a Boeing 777 at more than 30,000 feet.

Few people outside Russia are buying Moscow’s counter-claims.

But if Russia stands indicted by global consent, what should the world do about the atrocity?

Vladimir Putin: Shaming him and not 150 million Russians, should be the aim

Vladimir Putin: Shaming him and not 150 million Russians, should be the aim

Indignation, even when righteous, is not the best guide to action.

A century after the outbreak of the First World War, risk of a real existential crisis is looming between Russia and the West.

Washington blames Moscow for so many innocent deaths. In 1914, an act of terrorism in a corner of south-eastern Europe led to a crisis spiralling out of control.

Politicians and the public here are enraged at what’s happened. But unlike the rest of us, our leaders must calculate consequences as well as express fury.

To get something positive out of this disaster, the West needs to avoid pushing Russia into a corner. Shaming President Putin, not 150 million Russians, should be the aim.

President Putin has pitched himself as his people’s defender, restoring his country’s battered pride. Now the West should try to de-couple patriotic Russians from their president. Pushing him and them together with their backs to the wall is a recipe for catastrophe.

Many of the Russian fighters in Ukraine cut their teeth suppressing the Chechen rebels ten years ago. That was a brutal no-holds barred affair. Because of Chechen terror attacks on Russian civilians, most Russians turned a blind eye to the methods used to pacify Chechnya.

Self-righteousness is not a Russian monopoly. Certainly President Putin played on it among his own people after hundreds were killed in apartment bombings, blasts on trains and planes as well as attacks on pop concerts and theatres. Desire for revenge closed Russian eyes to the price in equally innocent Chechen civilian life.

Remember President Putin’s threat to kill his Chechen enemies wherever he found them – even on the lavatory.

But do we want to go that way? Is it wise to take that path?

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Think back to the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. President John F. Kennedy’s advisers wanted to bomb the sinister Soviet missile bases sprouting 90 miles from Florida. But the president remembered old Joe Kennedy’s advice to his sons, ‘Don’t get angry. Get even.’

Now President Obama should re-read how his predecessor squeezed Nikita Khrushchev’s Soviet Union into pulling back from the brink.

Some will say thinking coolly about how to react to so much needless death is being cold-hearted about the victims.

Rash responses dictated by emotional outrage won’t bring back the dead – but could pile up new corpses.

The pressure to pile punitive sanctions on Russia looks irresistible. Some are even advocating arming Ukraine in the civil war so it can hit back.

Remember how the Second World War in the Pacific began in 1941. America and Britain imposed an oil embargo on Japan for its invasion of China. Faced with its tanks and planes grinding to a halt for lack of fuel, Tokyo lashed out, bombing Pearl Harbor and grabbing South-East Asia’s oil fields.

Of course, it ended in nuclear cataclysm for Japan in  August 1945. But today Russia has the bomb too.

Historic first meeting   Soviet Prime Minister Nikita Khrushchev meets President John F. Kennedy at the American ambassador's residence in Vienna in June 1961. In October of the following year the two were to be major players in the Cuban Missile Crisis which brought the world to the brink of nuclear war. President Kennedy was assassinated in November 1963.

The historic first meeting Nikita Khrushchev and President John F. Kennedy at the American ambassador’s residence in Vienna in June 1961. In October 1962, the two were on the brink of the Third World War as the Cuban Missile crisis raged

President Obama has to calibrate the West’s reaction very skilfully, playing on the global outrage to get a good outcome out of the tragedy without pouring oil on the fire.

What the West should want is an end to the conflict in Ukraine, security for that country and justice for the MH17 victims. But if it asks for President Putin’s head, he might decide better to be hanged for a sheep than a lamb. He could pour his troops into Ukraine. His nuclear umbrella could cover him for that.

But let’s not overestimate Vladimir Putin.

His sinister ogre image has gone viral since Thursday, but he may not be quite the political chess grandmaster that some in the West feared or even admired.

Nigel Farage said that ‘he played a blinder’ over Crimea but then President Putin took his eye off the ball. Letting underlings run the eastern Ukrainian sideshow, he pursued his ambition to bestride the globe. That has backfired spectacularly.

As MH17 flew to its doom, the Russian president was on his way back to Moscow from Brazil. He wasn’t there just for the World Cup. He had set up a rival to the Western-dominated IMF with Brazil, India, China and South Africa. His Kremlin was competing with Washington in the financial sphere – something the Soviet leaders had never dreamed of.

But just as the Kremlin thought it had got one over on the West its goons on the ground sabotaged Vladimir Putin’s day in the sun.

His presidency has been based on rebuilding Russian pride since the collapse of the Soviet Union as a superpower. The downing of MH17 is a disaster for his project. Avoiding pariah status is likely to be President Putin’s key goal.

To avoid a draining economic war with the West, President Putin can back off. The Kremlin can sacrifice a few ‘overzealous’ subordinates in the field. It can even renounce the rebels in Ukraine’s south-eastern rust belt which the moneymen around the president never wanted. Keeping Russia is his priority.

The West should prefer to see Vladimir Putin wriggling in embarrassment rather than trying to skewer him. Pushing his back to the wall can easily cause him to lash out.

He won’t strike us directly but he can cause pain to Ukraine, and elsewhere around the world Russia’s nuclear umbrella could cover many nasty surprises.

The West does not want Russia to act as a rogue state.

Provoking President Putin to do his worst cannot be a rational response to the horror on Thursday.

Going after him might satisfy the anger felt by millions after the catastrophe, but the West could live to regret it.

Russians will notice if their president is allowed to back down gracefully and his prestige will wane.

Washington saw Nikita Khrushchev fall just two years after the Cuban crisis. Letting Russians put their country on the right track themselves is the best way to get even with those Russians who caused mayhem last week.

Revenge, remember, is a dish best served cold.

  • Mark Almond is a historian specialising in post-communist countries.


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# MH17 -Downed Malaysian Plane Raises Risk of War Between Russia and The West..( Stephen Cohen )

Stephen Cohen, professor emeritus of Russian studies and politics at New York University and Princeton University. His most article forThe Nation is “The Silence of American Hawks About Kiev’s Atrocities.”

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Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 298 people has exploded and crashed in eastern Ukraine, killing everyone on board. U.S. and Ukrainian officials say the Boeing 777 was shot down by a Russian-made surface-to-air missile, but it is unclear who fired the missile. The plane was traveling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur with passengers from at least 10 countries on board, including 173 Dutch nationals, 44 Malaysians and 27 Australians. As many as 100 of the world’s leading AIDS researchers and advocates were reportedly on the plane en route to a conference in Australia, including the pioneering researcher and former president of the International AIDS Society, Joep Lange. Both sides in Ukraine’s conflict are blaming each other for downing the plane. We speak with Professor Stephen Cohen on what this incident could mean for the region. His most article for The Nation magazine is “The Silence of American Hawks About Kiev’s Atrocities.”



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JUAN GONZÁLEZ: A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 298 people has exploded and crashed in eastern Ukraine, killing everyone on board. U.S. and Ukrainian officials say the Boeing 777 was shot down by a Russian-made surface-to-air missile, but it’s unclear who fired the missile. The plane was traveling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur with passengers from at least 10 countries on board, including 173 Dutch nationals, 44 Malaysians and 27 Australians. As many as 100 of the world’s leading AIDSresearchers and advocates were reportedly on the plane en route to a conference in Australia, including the pioneering researcher and former president of the International AIDS Society, Joep Lange. Both sides in Ukraine’s conflict are blaming each other for downing the plane. Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak vowed to launch a full investigation into what happened.

PRIME MINISTER NAJIB RAZAK: We must, and we will, find out precisely what happened to this flight. No stone will be left unturned. If it transpires that the plane was indeed shot down, we insist that the perpetrators must swiftly be brought to justice.

AMY GOODMAN: After the plane crashed, Russian media quoted witnesses saying they saw the plane being hit by what looked like a rocket. There have been several other recent disputes over planes being attacked over eastern Ukraine. On Thursday, Ukrainian officials blamed the Russian air force for shooting down one of its ground attack jets and a transport plane earlier in the week.

Over the past few days, Western governments have expressed growing concern that Russia is amping up its military support for separatists in eastern Ukraine. The United States strengthened its economic sanctions against Russia this week, but the European Union has so far declined to follow suit.

For more, we’re joined by Stephen Cohen, professor emeritus of Russian studies and politics at New York University and Princeton University. His most recent piece for The Nation is headlined, “The Silence of American Hawks About Kiev’s Atrocities.” His book, Soviet Fates and Lost Alternatives: From Stalinism to the New Cold War, is out in paperback.

Professor Cohen, welcome to Democracy Now! What do you think we should understand about what has taken place?

STEPHEN COHEN: The horror of it all, to quote Conrad, watching your reports on Gaza, knowing what I know but what’s not being reported in the mainstream media about what’s been going on in eastern Ukraine cities—these cities have been pounded by Kiev—and now this. “Emeritus,” as you call me, means old. I’ve seen this before. One function of cold war is innocent victims. The people who died, nearly 300, from many countries, are the first victims, nonresidential victims, of the new Cold War. This crash, this shootdown, will make everything worse, no matter who did it.

There are several theoretical possibilities. I am not a conspiracy buff, but we know in the history of the Cold War, there are provocations, people who want to make things worse. So, in Moscow, and not only in Moscow, there are theories that somebody wanted this to happen. I just can’t believe anybody would do it, but you can’t rule anything out.

The other possibility is, because the Ukrainian government itself has a capability to shoot down planes. By the way, the Ukrainian government shot down a Russian passenger jet, I think in 2001. It was flying from Tel Aviv to Siberia. It was an accident. Competence is always a factor when you have these weapons.

Another possibility is that the rebels—we call them separatists, but they weren’t separatists in the beginning, they just wanted home rule in Ukraine—that they had the capability. But there’s a debate, because this plane was flying at commercial levels, normally beyond the reach of what they can carry on their shoulders.

There’s the possibility that the Russians aided and abetted them, possibly from Russian territory, but I rule that out because, in the end, when you don’t know who has committed a crime, the first question a professional investigator asks is, “Did anybody have a motive?” and the Russians certainly had no motive here. This is horrible for Putin and for the Russian position.

That’s what we know so far. Maybe we’ll know more. We may never know who did this.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Well, the Obama administration has expanded U.S. sanctions on Russia in the latest round of a standoff over Ukraine. Speaking at the White House, President Obama said Russia has failed to drop military support for pro-Russian separatists.

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Given its continued provocations in Ukraine, today I have approved a new set of sanctions on some of Russia’s largest companies andfinancial institutions. Along with our allies, with whom I have been coordinating closely the last several days and weeks, I have repeatedly made it clear that Russia must halt the flow of weapons and fighters across the border into Ukraine, that Russia must urge separatists to release their hostages and support a ceasefire, that Russia needs to pursue internationally mediated talks and agree to meaningful monitors on the border.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Your response?

STEPHEN COHEN: Sanctions are beside the point. Obviously they’ll cause economic pain, possibly equally to Europe, which doesn’t want them, didn’t want them. Major American corporations took out ads in major American newspapers before Obama did this, asking Obama not to do it. When you resort to sanctions, it means you have no policy. You have an attitude. And the anti-Putin attitude in Washington is driving American policy.

Let me mention, because I think it’s relevant to what you’re covering here, your very, very powerful segments before I came on today about what’s going on in Gaza, the pounding of these cities, the defenselessness of ordinary people. The same thing has been happening in East Ukrainian cities—bombing, shelling, mortaring by the Kiev government—whatever we think of that government. But that government is backed 150 percent by the White House. Every day, the White House and the State Department approve of what Kiev’s been doing. We don’t know how many innocent civilians, women and children, have died. We know there’s probably several hundred thousand refugees that have run from these cities. The cities are Donetsk, Luhansk, Kramatorsk, Slovyansk—a whole series of cities whose names are not familiar to Americans. The fact is, Americans know nothing about this. We know something about what’s happening in Gaza, and there’s a division of opinion in the United States: The Israelis should do this, the Israelis should not do this. But we know there are victims: We see them. Sometimes the mainstream media yanks a reporter, as you just showed, who shows it too vividly, because it offends the perception of what’s right or wrong. But we are not shown anything about what’s happened in these Ukrainian cities, these eastern Ukrainian cities.

Why is that important? Because this airliner, this shootdown, took place in that context. The American media says it must have been the bad guys—that is, the rebels—because they’ve shot down other airplanes. This is true, but the airplanes they’ve been shooting down are Ukraine’s military warplanes that have come to bomb the women and children of these cities. We don’t know that.

AMY GOODMAN: There have been several discussions—in the corporate media, it was said that this plane might have had a sort of unusual path, had gone further south, and that they thought it was a Ukrainian military plane.


AMY GOODMAN: Also, in terms of the black boxes, that Ukrainian officials and NTSB cannot get there because it’s rebel-held territory, and that the rebels might have taken the black boxes.

STEPHEN COHEN: Well, the rebels have said they’re going to turn them over to Moscow, and Moscow will not conceal them. I mean, Moscow is going to play openness, so far as we know. But what’s preposterous, of course, is the prime minister of Malaysia coming out and telling us that Malaysia will uncover this mystery, when it still can’t find its missing airliner. This is just absolutely preposterous. But you’re right, the investigation is going to be politicized. Will we ever know?

Let me make the point again, though, because you hearkened back to it: This is a war zone. It’s a war zone. It’s been a war zone, an air war zone, for at least a month. Americans don’t know that. I hear you’ve shown it. But that’s—

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Well, that’s one of the reasons that—well, what I wanted to ask you is, because of what’s been going on in Syria, in Iraq, and now with the Israeli attacks on Gaza, it’s almost as if what’s going on in Ukraine has receded in the consciousness of the media here in this country, even though it’s conceivably much more dangerous and has more long-term impact on the United States.

STEPHEN COHEN: I don’t want to prioritize death—I mean, whose death is worse or not so worse. But the reality is, if you’re going to ask an historian, that the conflict in the Middle East, including Iraq, is going to affect regional politics, but the conflict in Ukraine is going to affect global politics, because we are now in a new Cold War with Russia. We have been for several months. One aspect of cold war is civilian deaths. We’ve had these shootdowns. We had them in the old Cold War. This is going to get worse. It also brings us closer to war between Russia and the West, NATO and the United States. So, if you’re going to ask which is more important—Russians have a saying that, which is worse? And the answer is, both are worse. They’re all worse. But if you’re going to ask which is going to have impact for our grandchildren, it’s what’s going on in Ukraine now.

AMY GOODMAN: We only have 30 seconds, but Obama announcing stricter sanctions against Russia, how significant is this? It was a day before the downing of the plane.

STEPHEN COHEN: I’ll repeat what I said before: By resorting to sanctions, Obama reminds us he has no policy toward Ukraine or Russia other than to blame Putin. That’s not a policy; that’s an attitude.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, Stephen Cohen, professor emeritus of Russian studies and politics, New York University and Princeton University. We’ll link to his piece in The Nation. His latest book, just out in paperback, Soviet Fates and Lost Alternatives: From Stalinism to the New Cold War.

BRICS Bank hopes to break the binds of Western Economic Domination…(Rothschild/Illuminati Reeling)

Jul 15:

BRICS bank hopes to break the binds of Western economic dominance
Leaders of the BRICS nations, from left, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin, India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Brazil’s President Dilma Rousseff, China’s President Xi Jinping and South Africa’s President Jacob Zuma, pose for a group photo during the BRICS summit in Fortaleza, Brazil, Tuesday, July 15, 2014 (Silvia Izquierdo/Associated Press).